Curse

TadaceAce · Jun 23, 2006, 10:12 PM // 22:12

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Originally Posted by Guildwiki.org

For 5...17 seconds, you move 25% faster and gain double adrenaline from attacks. Battle Rage ends if you use any non-attack skills. When Battle Rage ends, you lose all adrenaline.

I propose that when you reuse battle rage it doesn't make you lose all adrenaline.

Pros:
Maintainable with relatively low strength
Decent stance for no energy cost
Would make for a fun skill to use
Permanent speed increase

Cons:
Would "lose all adrenaline" before the standard 20 second mark between fights
Vulnerable to wild strike and wild blow
Cannot be used to spike (frenzy would break it and lose all adrenaline)
Can only use attack skills for this skill to work.
It sucks up your elite (no enraged smash every hit).
Sucks up your stance so you can't use TF / frenzy with it.
Using battle rage still costs 20 adrenaline points which will be drained from other adrenal skills.

I see how in no way this would make the skill overpowered, I would see it more as on par with other skills. As of right now its just horrible. Honestly even with this buff TF/frenzy for stance and an elite damage skill is still better combo for pve and pvp but this would make the skill at least fun to use.

Now overpowered it would look something like this:
For 30 seconds, you move 50% faster, gain double adrenaline from attacks, attack 50% faster, steal life equivalent to damage dealt, remove one enchant on hit, and knockdown all foes in the area on hit.

Arkantos · Jun 23, 2006, 10:39 PM // 22:39

Battle Rage is fine the way it is if you know how to use it. All you have to do is get all the adren you want, use all your adren skills then use BR again.

TadaceAce · Jun 24, 2006, 12:19 AM // 00:19

if you have 5 or more adrenal skills its called an adrenal chain, you don't just use them and use BR again...

Zui · Jun 24, 2006, 01:23 AM // 01:23

Battle Rage is fine. Learn to use it.

Curse You · Jun 24, 2006, 05:37 AM // 05:37

I used to use Battle Rage on my warrior until I got some more useful elites. I personally like it the way it is.

It's simple. Use Battle Rage, skills charge twice as fast, use the skills, when you see Battle Rage flashing (running out) reuse it and wait for your skills to recharge again. It's a great way to get lots of adrenaline.

Also, I love the "lose all adrenaline" part. I used that to kill my Dopple (it just kept reusing Battle Rage). It also adds a factor of "skill" and paying attention to the duration.

Terra Xin · Jun 24, 2006, 05:41 AM // 05:41

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Originally Posted by Curse You

I used to use Battle Rage on my warrior until I got some more useful elites. I personally like it the way it is.

It's simple. Use Battle Rage, skills charge twice as fast, use the skills, when you see Battle Rage flashing (running out) reuse it and wait for your skills to recharge again. It's a great way to get lots of adrenaline.

Also, I love the "lose all adrenaline" part. I used that to kill my Dopple (it just kept reusing Battle Rage). It also adds a factor of "skill" and paying attention to the duration.

Curse you for being so clever^^

If you take out the adrenaline loss in this skill, then it will become more favourable than the other adrenaline gaining skills, which should be almost as good.

Arcador · Jun 24, 2006, 06:41 AM // 06:41

If you take the adrenalin lose it will become...how they say it - IMBA. You move fast, you gain DOUBLE adrenalin. If you are still able to renew it before it actually ends, combined with some of the new 2-3 adrenalin cost attacks, can be very efficient.

Retribution X · Jun 24, 2006, 01:19 PM // 13:19

It's almost useless right now, Because it ends when you use a non attack skill.

Drop that and It'd be usefull.

ubermancer · Jun 24, 2006, 01:39 PM // 13:39

Its an RA skill... it also has obscene DPS capabilities, and was what I always used for heavy pressure in RA, back in the day.

prism2525 · Jun 25, 2006, 10:36 AM // 10:36

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Originally Posted by Retribution X

It's almost useless right now, Because it ends when you use a non attack skill.

Drop that and It'd be usefull.

It's called Battle Rage for that reason. You snap out of the rage if you stand and think of an incantation.

I'm more concerned on the fact that even if you renew it before it ends you lose all adrenaline. IMO BR doesn't end, it's RENEWED, so why do I lose all adrenaline? Still, I can make it work even as it is, mind. But it seems unfitting the description.

Renegade ++RIP++ · Jun 25, 2006, 11:31 AM // 11:31

yeah would be cool if you wouldn't lose your adrenaline on a renewal. Even though i have not been using it since i consider the other elites to be more beneficial in the long run even if you idn't loose your adrenaline on the stance ending.

Mister Muhkuh · Jun 25, 2006, 11:41 AM // 11:41

i prefer "For Great Justice!" and Flurry(my elite is quivering blade, with for great justice its charged by 3 hits(really fast with flurry, i dont use frenzy, coz it kinda sucks in pve when u are main tank

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i use a +15% stance sword so the loss of damage when using flurry is only 10%